S1 Episode 4 – The Usual Suspects

dpaynetbs@gmail.com — Wed, 14 Feb 2018 05:00:14 +0000

Are We Making This Too Complicated?

Payne and Gottlieb explore and re-examine the prevailing theories on the motive of Tom’s killer including his personal life and work for the gun control movement in Washington State.

People Referenced

Carle Schlaff

Former FBI Special Agent, Denver Field Office and FBI handler for Scott Lee Kimball

Scott Lee Kimball

Former Wales case FBI Informant turned Serial Killer (aka Hannibal, Joe Snitch)

Steven Clymer

Special federal prosecutor in the Wales Case

Robert Mueller

Former Director of the FBI (2001-2013); Special Counsel – Investigation of Russian Interference in the 2016 United States elections & related matters

Ron Bone

Former lead FBI agent in charge of the Wales investigation (2001-2014)

Dan Dubitzky

Retired Criminal Defense Attorney & Friend of Tom Wales

Ralph Fascitelli

Friend of Tom Wales; President, Washington CeaseFire

Robert Chadwell

Criminal Defense Attorney; Counsel for Chet Raspberry; Former AUSA

David Gomez

Former FBI assistant special agent in charge (ASAC). Worked in the Seattle field office from 12/05-11/00. Gomez is a 28 year veteran of the FBI

Jeanette Ashmun

Washington CeaseFire Board member

Alan Gottlieb

Founder & CEO Second Amendment Foundation

Motive is not something that’s required to prove the crime.

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