Payne and Gottlieb examine the ballistics evidence through a new lens and new details that they have uncovered in their investigation.
Chasing Guns and Bullets
People Referenced
Steve Jackson ("The Pilot")
Defendant prosecuted by Wales in Helicopter case; Partner of Kim Stafford Powell in Intrex Helicopters, Inc.
Bruce McClung
Former Insurance Adjustor and Friend of Steve Jackson
Julie Caddy
Waitress at Shannon’s in Tonasket Washington
Al Rise
Proprietor of Al’s Sporting Goods
Jason Booher
23-year veteran of the United States Navy SEALs
Aaron Brudenell
Ballistic Forensic Specialist
Rod Rosenstein
Deputy Attorney General for the United States
Steve Miletich
The Seattle Times, Criminal Justice Reporter
Mike Carter
The Seattle Times, Federal Courts, Criminal Justice, Legal Affairs Reporter
Jeffrey Toobin
Senior Legal Analyst, CNN; Staff Writer, New Yorker and Former Assistant United States Attorney
Albert Kwan
Bellevue Gun Collector
A regular Makarov is going to have 4 lands and grooves and a right hand twist.
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This podcast investigates a murder that occurred in 2001. It is a true story. But the opinions of the hosts and interviewees are simply that, opinions, not facts, and the credibility of the witnesses and what they say is to be determined by the listener. Everyone is presumed innocent until proven otherwise in a court of law.