Payne and Gottlieb explore the prime suspect’s alibi and other exculpatory evidence, as well as the lengths to which the FBI would go to get their man.
What in the heck were they thinking?
People Referenced
Jeffrey Toobin
Senior Legal Analyst, CNN; Staff Writer, New Yorker and Former Assistant United States Attorney
David Gomez
Former FBI assistant special agent in charge (ASAC). Worked in the Seattle field office from 12/05-11/10. Gomez is a 28 year veteran of the FBI.
Larry Setchell
Attorney for Steve Jackson, “The Pilot”
Al Rise
Proprietor of Al’s Sporting Goods
Aaron Brudenell
Ballistic Expert/Forensic Specialist
Steve Miletich
The Seattle Times, Criminal Justice Reporter
Mike Carter
The Seattle Times, Federal Courts, Criminal Justice, Legal Affairs Reporter
Steven Clymer
Special federal prosecutor in the Wales Case
Lisa Kern Griffin
Professor of Law at Duke University School of Law
Bruce McClung
Former Insurance Adjustor and Friend of Steve Jackson
Ron Bone
Former lead FBI Agent-in-Charge of the Wales investigation (2001-2014)
Ken Karateew
Helicopter Mechanic/Business Partner of John Hurn
It’s widely regarded as a due process violation.
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This podcast investigates a murder that occurred in 2001. It is a true story. But the opinions of the hosts and interviewees are simply that, opinions, not facts, and the credibility of the witnesses and what they say is to be determined by the listener. Everyone is presumed innocent until proven otherwise in a court of law.