Payne and Gottlieb explore and re-examine the prevailing theories on the motive of Tom’s killer including his personal life and work for the gun control movement in Washington State.
Are We Making This Too Complicated?
People Referenced
Carle Schlaff
Former FBI Special Agent, Denver Field Office and FBI handler for Scott Lee Kimball
Scott Lee Kimball
Former Wales case FBI Informant turned Serial Killer (aka Hannibal, Joe Snitch)
Steven Clymer
Special federal prosecutor in the Wales Case
Robert Mueller
Former Director of the FBI (2001-2013); Special Counsel – Investigation of Russian Interference in the 2016 United States elections & related matters
Ron Bone
Former lead FBI agent in charge of the Wales investigation (2001-2014)
Dan Dubitzky
Retired Criminal Defense Attorney & Friend of Tom Wales
Ralph Fascitelli
Friend of Tom Wales; President, Washington CeaseFire
Robert Chadwell
Criminal Defense Attorney; Counsel for Chet Raspberry; Former AUSA
David Gomez
Former FBI assistant special agent in charge (ASAC). Worked in the Seattle field office from 12/05-11/00. Gomez is a 28 year veteran of the FBI
Jeanette Ashmun
Washington CeaseFire Board member
Alan Gottlieb
Founder & CEO Second Amendment Foundation
Motive is not something that’s required to prove the crime.
This podcast investigates a murder that occurred in 2001. It is a true story. But the opinions of the hosts and interviewees are simply that, opinions, not facts, and the credibility of the witnesses and what they say is to be determined by the listener. Everyone is presumed innocent until proven otherwise in a court of law.
