In the inaugural episode, Payne and Gottlieb explore what went wrong with the police and FBI investigation after federal prosecutor Tom Wales was assassinated in his basement.
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People Referenced
Ralph Fascitelli

Friend of Tom Wales; President, Washington CeaseFire
Jeffrey Toobin

Senior Legal Analyst, CNN; Staff Writer, New Yorker and Former Assistant United States Attorney
David Gomez

Former FBI Assistant Special Agent-in-Charge (ASAC). Worked in the Seattle field office (2005-2011). Gomez is a 28 year veteran of the FBI
Steven Clymer

Special Federal Prosecutor in the Wales Case
Laura Laughlin

Former Special Agent-in-Charge (SAC) of the FBI Seattle Field Office
Ron Bone

Former lead FBI agent in charge of the Wales investigation (2001-2014)
Dave Sousa

Former FBI Special Agent, Seattle Field Office
Robert Mueller

Former Director of the FBI (2001-2013); Special Counsel – Investigation of Russian Interference in the 2016 United States elections & related matters
Gil Kerlikowske

Former Seattle Chief of Police (2001-2009)
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This podcast investigates a murder that occurred in 2001. It is a true story. But the opinions of the hosts and interviewees are simply that, opinions, not facts, and the credibility of the witnesses and what they say is to be determined by the listener. Everyone is presumed innocent until proven otherwise in a court of law.